Fine Art America – trying for new sales…

I mentioned last month that I was trying to work on developing more traction on my Fine Art Portfolio on Fine Art America. I had around 800 images over there and as I have reported here, have had occasional sales. I tried an experiment to lower my prices, but that did nothing much at all, and so I put them back to more reasonable levels:

FAA Pricing Jan 2021

Then, in early December, I decided to spend time trying to get more traffic to my images and also try to influence the positioning of my images in the internal search engine. I think there are probably three paths to a print sale – a google search ending up at FAA, someone on FAA searching for a particular type of image and, finally, someone seeing one of my posts somewhere and going to FAA to investigate it. I don’t know how to influence the google search and so I concentrated on the latter two. I also spent time increasing the number of images I have on the site by working backwards through my portfolio and uploading images that I like the look of, but have never got round to uploading. So, as of today, I have 1075 images over there and many, many months worth of images still to go through. I did find out that FAA uses the title of the image to give it a URL, and occasionally strange things happen if you have several images with the same title, and so I now check first that the title makes sense (they do crop it) and also the title is unique among my images.

Fine Art America groups and contests

I’ve always known that FAA has an active contributor community with many groups and many of those hold contests. So my start was to join some groups that aim to boost your position in the search order by offering to “like and favorite” images in exchange for you doing the same to their images. Others ask you to comment on the five images above you in the discussion and still others just ask you to look at all the images above you that have been posted to the discussion in the past 24 hours. Measuring views is something that FAA do, and presumably use it for search order in some way! So since early December, I have been an active member of those groups and have amassed many likes and comments on my images. I focused on images around WVU and Morgantown at first to see if I could see some measurable change in my position in a search.

Dramatic photo of Woodburn Hall at West Virginia University or WVU would make a great graduation gift for your student, especially as a metal print
Dramatic image of Woodburn Hall at West Virginia University or WVU in Morgantown WV as the sun sets behind the illuminated historic building

I chose this because it would make a good graduation gift for a WVU student or new faculty member and also I could search for WVU or Woodburn Hall on FAA and see where my image appears. Before I started it was on page 2 of the searches. Now with 22 comments and 71 likes, it is halfway down the first page. What is interesting is that my other images of this same place (taken with the snow in December) are also ranked better (I think) and I have quite a grouping that appears on this first page. I do know the artist whose image appears at the top of these searches and he can’t really explain it – he maybe got there early, and it is definitely a great image, but he didn’t do anything special to get this position. I think Sales are an important part of this and maybe sales across your portfolio, but it isn’t at all clear! So it does appear that taking part in these exercises on a regular basis is worthwhile.

I also entered some contests. I found that the ones that were judged by the general public or other FAA members were very hit and miss and probably depended on getting friends to vote for you, but I did have better luck on the juried ones, earning a first place with one of my images. No prizes, but a bit more visibility. Also entering contests is easy and little effort. I think I will just stick with juried ones in future – at least you know someone will see your work and judge it!

External Links

I then started posting one of my images with a link back to the FAA page on my personal Facebook account. I tried to publish one image each day and generally get the usual likes and some comments. Finally, I started adding one image every day (or so) to my business LinkedIn account. I’ve had some clicks through to the image on FAA and some comments saying it is nice to see a good photo rather than the boring stuff they normally see in their feeds!

But the $64,000 question – did I sell anything? A couple of masks in December, but apart from that, no! So it is hard to say if this is a success or not! I guess January is a slow month for prints, and so I shouldn’t judge things too quickly. So my plan is to continue with this. If you want to form a group to cross promote our work, please “follow” me and I’ll comment back on your work.

What sells on FAA?

I wish I knew the answer to this! I have thought that an image of a specific place must have some advantages. This is not because these sort of images sell better than more artistic ones of flowers, say, or abstracts. I think that keywording an image of a place is relatively specific. We know what people will be searching for and so can do our best to get those keywords included and also craft a description to attract them. Keywording an abstract image is very hard (at least for me) and I have no idea what people would search for. Flowers are similar – there are so many of them that getting yours seen must be quite hard. So I’ve tended to focus on uploading images of places and hope that some buyers are searching a memento of that place. Time will tell if I am right!

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13 Responses

  1. mpalis12 says:

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on FAA. I am following the same path some time ago. I did notice a sale after some days trying to like/favorite comment etc. Now I am trying to promote a single image to a lot or groups. I never managed to have some of my images on the first or second page.

  2. elovkoff says:

    Intersting article Steve, thanks.
    I have doubts that clicks from FB can influence positioning on FAA – facebook clicks are so easy to create en masse, especially if you have bif social following.

    Since google started offering licensing for in images found in searches, did you notice any success in selling resources from directly? I think you have the website with picfair – any sales there from google?

    • Steven Heap says:

      I’m sure you are right about Facebook – I am trying to get my images in front of people who might buy them personally. More chance on LinkedIn, I think as there are many more (well-off) viewers there. No change on selling direct (which I guess you could say Picfair is). Nothing has changed over there but I have made no attempts to publicize it.
      Steve

  3. Alessandra says:

    I have done all those three things for a one year now and sales are few and far between. I will not lower my prices, because with higher prices I need to sell less and the site simply does not sell. Not long ago, FAA did a Facebook campaign and some people sold through that, were charged a commission, and complained. I don’t know if they will do more advertising campaigns like those on FAA. I would rather pay a commission and have them advertise, than work for so few sales.

    Those who specialize on a theme, for instance food photography, travel photography, memes etc, might have an easier time targeting their audience for ads. I am spread out to thin for that.

    They say that if you look at the number of views your images have, you might find out why you don’t sell. I did. Some of my images have two views, while a few others have over 1,000. The ones with over 1,000 have sold as much as the ones with two. Go figure.

    • Steven Heap says:

      Yes, I know! I do find it frustrating that there is no easy way to get images more visible, so I guess I will continue to try with my current approaches!

      • Alessandra says:

        you seem to have had a lot of visitors, on your page count. I discontinued my account for two years and I have very few despite the fact that I do tweet…

  4. Hi Steven. I really appreciate your sharing your experience. I’ve been at FAA for almost a year, in addition to other art print websites and stock agencies. In FAA I have almost 100 images, mostly landscape. No sale so far. During the last months I have participated in groups and contests, as well as in social networks, hoping that my images would have greater visibility. The views in FAA have grown in many of the images, although they have not been shared in groups, so I understand that visits to one of them creates visits to the rest. I haven’t seen much of a difference in visualization between before and after group work and contests. I stopped uploading images so assiduously, a bit discouraged. During this time I have grown my portfolio in P4M. I think the sales will come from someone who wants to buy a specific image. My prices may be cheap, for wanting to have a sale. Perhaps buyers are looking for an image that reminds them of a place or sensation, rather than a somewhat more artistic image. I keep working. Thank you!

    • Steven Heap says:

      I found that making my images cheap to buy made no difference (although sales are sporadic so it is really hard to tell). I’ll continue doing what I am for a while and see if sales start to materialize. I agree about the artistic images being harder to find and hence sell.
      Steve

  5. Andy says:

    That was a very thorough and detailed article Steve (all yours are!) and especially interesting as I was thinking or uploading to FAA. But from what you and others have said it does seem like a huge amount of work for little return. Don’t think I’ll bother! In any case am still trying to get my head around what sells on stock and my frazzled brain can only take so much! Incidentally, do you sell on Photo4me?

    Thanks again for writing the article.

    • Steven Heap says:

      Hi Andy – glad you find my articles useful! It is a balance between time and reward, I must admit. I wish I could really work out what sells over there on FAA and just upload those! I do upload to Photo4Me and they have made uploads easier recently. But I find that the audience there is looking more for UK images and perhaps also from Europe. As to whether all this is worthwhile – I did some sums for a presentation I am giving on Stock Photography and I have earned $292K on all my stock adventures, with $3000 from FAA, $1000 from Society6 and $400 from Photo4Me. So it is a small percentage of the total.
      Steve

  6. Andy says:

    Thanks for the reply Steve. 3k from FAA isn’t too bad and 292k from stock, well, pretty damned marvellous I’d say. Think I’m on about £41…

    Andy

    • Steven Heap says:

      Yes, and that total is over many years now. So keep it up!
      There is the satisfaction of selling a “fine art” print. I do enjoy that little buzz. Far more than selling yet another opioid shot on a stock site!
      Steve

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